Since the bullet begins below the scope at the point of trigger pull, it starts below the point of aim. Concepts such as what you’re promoting are akin to the military 25/300 zeros that allow for a person to miss head shots as close as 100 yards because of the higher allowed maximum ordinate. Nosler Ballistic Tip 4030 3 0.204 .204 Ruger Cartridge Federal Cartridge .204 dia. Rob01 Super Mod. He trained DOD personnel in Combat Marksmanship, Close Quarters Battle, Breaching and Sniper/Observer Operations in addition to deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq. Comparing Figures 5 and 7 you can see why range estimation with a hunting rifle is much less critical. For most center fire rifles in a hunting role you want to ZERO the rifle at 200 yards. Feb 14, 2020 #2 R. Rmauch20 Senior Member. Now, since we're converting from a 100 -yard zero trajectory to a 200-yard zero trajectory, we begin by looking at how much we must adjust to rezero to the new distance. THE 200-YARD ZERO Sighting in your high-power deer rifle at 100 yards is a waste of a perfectly good flat trajectory. It is still just 1 MOA. That means having it hit 1.75 to 2.0 inches high at 100 yards. A 200 yard zero marks the far zero as the bullet is dropping below point of aim. This is still very close. According to remingtons ballistic charts for the bullet you specified, if it's zeroed at 200 yards, dropping down to 100 yards you're anywhere from 1.7-2.1 inches high, dropping back another 50 yards won't increase your compensation by much at all. The_Next_Generation Member. The 50/200 zero variations and the 100 yard zero work well because they have been tested and had various bugs worked out. In the recent carbine courses we have discussed various yard lines to zero your rifles along with the pros and cons of each yard line. That said, I (and this is personal) have found it easier to use a 200 yard zero for my hunting rifles. That is from 50 to 150 yards you will shoot slightly high. This places that same .270 bullet 0.4 inches low at 25 yards, 1.41 inches high at 100 yards, 2.51 inches low at 250 yards and finally slips below the 6 inch vital zone at 257 yards. I suggest you zero at 100. Where should I sight I'm my rifle at 25 yards to obtain a 200 yard zero? Will a rifle sighted for 50 yards (ascending bullet) really be on target for 200 as the bullet descends? For competition, I generally use a 100 yard zero, mostly due to habit, convenience, and my drops are memorized. The actual erector assembly is in the same place thus travel is the same. Note, the left target is also available as a “Powerpoint” file you can display and edit with MS Office. A 30 yard uncertainty in range estimation has almost no effect, at least within 300 yards. The 36 Yard Zero Target. Meet Frank Proctor … Frank spent his last 11 years in the military n US Army Special Forces. It is a clean design that is easy to see even at 200 yards with a 20x scope. There is only one drawback to having the 17 HMR we have been discussing zeroed at 25 yards. I have standardized my bolt-action testing a bit, testing more .223 Remington and .270 Winchester rifles than anything else. My normal process is to shoot at 50, 100, then move to 200 but my 100 yard range is closed and I don’t want to go to the range and start slinging ammo just wasting it. Now, move the paper targets to 200 yards and repeat the whole process. If 1 MOA is 1″ at 100 yards, how many MOA is 2″ at 200 yards? The trajectory of my .30-06 load will put a 165gr pill in a 16" circle out to 348 yards. Actually, MRT occurs a little beyond the half-way point – like around 115 for the 200-yard zero, and 170 yards for the 300-yard zero. Bullet Diameter: Caliber: Cartridge / Bullet Bullet Manufacturer: Bullet Description Muzzle Velocity (fps) 5 0.172 .17 HMR Cartridge Berger .172 dia. If you could provide the manufacturer of the ammunition you are using that would be very helpful. With a 200 yard zero, the bullet drop at 300 yards is only 6.8 inches. With a zero of 100 yards the .223/5.56 round will impact approx 3/4″ low at 50 yards and around 2.25″ low at 200 yards. Start with it truly zeroed and then dial from there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . I'd say you aren't getting close to the factory stated velocity. How to zero for 50 and 200 yards with Frank Proctor. Joined: Sep 27, 2011 Messages: 917 Location: USA. At 200 yards it’s only dropped around 10 inches. I have heard a lot about using a 50-200 yard zero, but would like to know how well it really works. Reactions: bradb, Gunnersdad49 and General RE LEE. I generally like to use a 200 yard zero for my hunting rifles so I can maximize my range in one turret revolution. Are there any good guides as to how to compensate for crosswinds? Other riflemen who routinely hunt areas where shots of 300 yards or more aren’t uncommon sometimes opt for a 200-yard zero. The 50/200 and similar type zeroes are a myth. What if you zero your gun at 250 yard? If it makes a difference, the bullet weight is 95gr. A Note On Windage A 20-yard zero will see the bullet climb through point-of-aim at 20 yards and not drop back through until approximately 62 yards, during which time the bullet will only climb to a maximum of .56″ at 40 yards. A 200 or 300 yard zero will include adjustment for drop, environmental conditions, as well as a correction for any wind. inches to zero at 200 yards. TBRW - 200 Yard Zero TBRW Group. With a 6.5 Creedmor, in PRS matches out to 1000 yards I don't even spin the dial one whole revolution with a 100 yard zero. If 200 yards is a long shot for you then the 100 yard zero would probably be best for you and just aim straight on all the time. A 200-yard zero puts its 140-grain bullet only 1½ inches over sightline at l00. This makes for a simple and quick correction in the scope not requiring holdover in an imaginary space above the back of the animal. The following is a 1000 yard 30-06 ballistic charting of a Remington 30-06 Springfield 165 Grain AccuTip Boat Tail with a BC (Ballistic Coeficient) of .447 that was created using our free online ballistic calculator and details the trajectory of the bullets flight from the millisecond it leaves the barrel until the time it reaches the 1,000 yd mark. It is important to realize that with a .308 rifle, 200-300 yards is a good shooting distance. It’s taking people backwards. Drawbacks to a 25 yard zero. It says that at around the halfway point of 250 yards the bullet will have slowed 580fps to a velocity of 2520fps, lost 688 ft pounds of energy (now pushing just 1339 lbs), and dropped due to gravitational forces just 5.9833 inches, and all of this in just a fraction of a second (.269 of a second). How Far Can A 12 Gauge Slug Shoot. Adjust the scope so the rifle shoots three inches high at l00, and you’ll reach 300 yards with a mere one inch of drop! Many factors will influence your own results. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . 165 grain accubonds, not sure of velocity I don’t have a chrono. For you folks that dial for distance on your hunting rigs, do you Zero your rifles for 100 or 200 yards? The trajectory path at 50 yards is 1.2 inches high, at 100 yards the bullet is 2.9 inches high, at 200 yards 2.3 inches high and at 300 yards the bullet only drops 3.8 inches. maybe a 1/2 inch tops. However, assuming you are shooting Remington 95gr Accutip @ … Set targets out to 200 yards. 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